And there was a lot of people doing interesting work in that style.īut you would go to 37signals’ website at the time, and it was just text. And a lot of images that were stitched together, so that you could click on one part of the image and it would be a button, but the rest would be sort of the background around the button, this kind of a thing. 37signals, at that time, really stood out from the crowd because, in the early web design scene, a lot of the design was sort of a very dense graphic design kind of packed into a little box in the middle of the screen. When I first came in, I was just a really big fan of Jason’s work. I learned so much at every stage of the company’s growth, so far.

You have been at Basecamp for, is it 16 years?īrian: So, and if I have my history right, you started off doing UI design when the company was still a design agency.īrian: So, what was that like, in the early days?

But the first thing is, I do want to hear a little bit about your experience. But there is a solid 20 hours’ worth of questions and conversation that I would love to ask you about. This is only gonna be a 45-minute interview.

And so, this is quite a treat to have you on, so thanks so much.īrian: So, I want to talk about “Shape Up”. I was telling you before we hit record, I have been following your work for well over a decade. Ryan, welcome to Bright & Early.īrian: It’s my pleasure. He shares many of those processes in his new book “Shape Up” and we’ll be discussing that today. Ryan is Head of Product Strategy at Basecamp, where he has designed features used by millions and invented processes used by their team to design, develop, and ship the right things. Giving you at least one thing to apply to your business first thing tomorrow. I talk to entrepreneurs, product people, designers, and marketing pros to learn what works, what doesn’t, and why. And welcome to Bright & Early, the podcast for people building early-stage startups. Ryan Singer on Twitter Brian on Twitter 30 Minutes with Ryan Singer on Jobs to Be Doneīrian: Hey, everyone.For now, it's helpful for some Ctrl+F action to find a pull Issues but I haven't gotten to this one yet. I am slowly editing them, identifying speakers, and cleaning up The following transcript has not yet been edited.

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